tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4554212833012467995.post962666567911703113..comments2018-04-28T01:14:30.878-04:00Comments on 6LittleChickies - Life on Louden Farms: Showing your birds? Help protect them!6LittleChickieshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14770473562804710158noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4554212833012467995.post-633005324041499402013-02-20T13:16:23.775-05:002013-02-20T13:16:23.775-05:00I agree there needs to be something done. I was on...I agree there needs to be something done. I was one of the people who had a birds taken. It was so upsetting when I got there and my bird was taken and a lot of my stuff like crates and feed as well. I was one of the lucky ones though and got her back. Someone from the Wyandotte Breeders of America took my bird because he thought she was left behind and didn't want her to be taken or "disposed" of. Now I am paranoid another bird will be taken by someone who isn't as kind hearted as the person who helped me. I only brought 10 birds and that was one of my BEST birds that I thought I had lost. I have seen the zip ties and want to use those on my cages as a deterrent but it will still make me worry.<br />One way instead of metal bands people can use bar code bands. This can be easier by just having a scanner scan the bird in. It would be much quicker and can have the owners info on it when scanned. Kinda like a micro chip in a dog. All it would be is a laminated piece of paper that you have a adhesive side to. Simple and easy to cut off in the end. This can also help if there is a missing bird or a loose bird. You can show your ID when you leave then have your birds scanned with a portable scanner. All the files will be electronic and easier to keep track of and search. Yes, it will take some time to log everyone out but I would rather wait an extra hour or two then have a $100+ bird go missing that I cannot replace. Abigail Wojteckinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4554212833012467995.post-25754987832523985082013-01-11T18:58:19.843-05:002013-01-11T18:58:19.843-05:00I agree, but every time I come up with a possible ...I agree, but every time I come up with a possible solution, it seems unattainable. For example, I know for a fact that my local club would never be able to afford a whole new array of more secure cages, if they even make them. Some of ours are over 20 years old, and they only buy the bare minimum they need to get by as the old ones break - sometimes THOSE are zip-tied just to keep them standing! Even with our less-than-one-thousand-entry show, there are six exits for the one building, and it's like rush hour in the subway at coop-out. People would literally freak out if we tried to stop them to check names and tags. I think, in light of this, I am going back to my small padlocks, although I may look for a slightly bigger size.<br /><br />I think that everyone wishes there was some sort of security process, but would those same people really want to wait at least thirty minutes for everyone's birds to be checked? I don't think so. I will bring this up to the people who run our show, and we all attend others. Will mention this thread at the Congress next weekend, also. If nothing else, it will make people be more aware of the exhibitors around them, and the people hanging out in their aisles.Mary Husseyhttp://www.facebook.com/marykrughhussey?ref=tn_tnmnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4554212833012467995.post-13570458018084055482013-01-11T10:40:37.103-05:002013-01-11T10:40:37.103-05:00Should be fixed now, thanks for mentioning it. I ...Should be fixed now, thanks for mentioning it. I didn't even catch that last night. 6LittleChickieshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14770473562804710158noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4554212833012467995.post-77043127114051051972013-01-11T10:39:27.083-05:002013-01-11T10:39:27.083-05:00Thanks for commenting Mary, I want to get a discus...Thanks for commenting Mary, I want to get a discussion going and an eager to any/all opinions and ideas. I certainly don't think I have all the answers, these were just some initial thoughts/observations/suggestions. I'm hoping more will weigh in with ideas. :)<br />You are right, it would be a large task to check everyone out especially considering the number of birds shown but shouldn't there be some sort of check out process? Just seems odd there isn't anything in place.<br />We do zip tie our cages but again, those are very easy to snip off and I know from observation that most people have no idea who owns the birds in the cages around theirs. No one would think much about someone cutting off a zip tie. As far as what the master breeders do and what has been done...i'm not saying they are wrong, I mentioned I've seen zip ties, I actually think this is a quick, easy and low cost way to protect them. The question is just because this is how things have been done by others and in the past does that mean that's how they should continue to operate? It seems situations like this are growing more and more common which is sad. <br />I do agree, logistical nightmare with this many birds but I think something does need to be done to ensure the safety of the birds and integrity of the competition. 6LittleChickieshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14770473562804710158noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4554212833012467995.post-71927224113582417902013-01-11T01:01:54.144-05:002013-01-11T01:01:54.144-05:00PS - it was really hard to read some of the highli...PS - it was really hard to read some of the highlighted sentences. Can they all be put in red?Mary Husseyhttp://www.facebook.com/marykrughhusseynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4554212833012467995.post-28059187060681827782013-01-11T01:00:10.444-05:002013-01-11T01:00:10.444-05:00Contrary to what I'm going to say, I really do...Contrary to what I'm going to say, I really do agree with you. In addition, there seems to be no way to remove infested or sick birds from the hall, even after the judges make a note of them - an immense problem in every show, no matter the size. I Frontline my birds after each show, just in case.<br /><br />That said, there would be a riot of immense proportions if people had to stand and wait to be released from a show as large as the Ohio National, especially those who have a long drive home, like me. I would think they would need at least 100 people manning every exit to get people out of there in a reasonable amount of time. Also, how could the checker be sure that the bird is not stolen if the person carrying the bird says they just bought it from the sale area? They could have stolen it and removed the band. Would those thousands of sale birds have bands as well? <br /><br />To safeguard my birds as best I can, I use cable ties on their cages as soon as the judging is done, and I put ties on the cages of purchased birds as soon as I buy them. Yes, they can be cut, but most people aren't going to bother. I have also purchased small keyed padlocks at the dollar store - they come with a master key, but they can be a pain to get around some of these cage wires securely. I figure if the master breeders use cable ties for their very valuable birds, that's good enough for me.<br /><br />I think every responsible exhibitor would agree with you in theory - how could anyone disagree? But, in practice, it's a bit of a logistical nightmare. I would love to hear the opinions of some of the people who run these bigger shows on how they might address these concerns in the future.Mary Husseyhttp://www.facebook.com/marykrughhusseynoreply@blogger.com